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Meme answers!
This took way longer than it should have, because it appears my brain has taken several months sick leave. I couldn't finish everyone I got given, but I'll post Vince and Howard soon. The TDS peeps are a strange blend of real and character... I didn't realise my mind-canon was such a contradictory mess of ideas :D
(Aaaand...I am so exhausted now, I'm just going to collapse into sleep.)
Jon & Stephen
a) three facts about them from my personal canon/fanon
When it comes to TDS Jon thinks of himself as a benevolent dictator, firm but fair. Really he's more of a mother hen. He always rather liked the leather jacket they gave him on MTV, but doesn't tell anyone that he kept it. Usually his self-deprecation is a defense mechanism, but when he says he believes Stephen has outstripped him he really means it.
Stephen is on a mission to change every single one of his friends ringtones to the Report theme song, but he can't figure out how to get past the passwords on Anderson's blackberry. If Jon hadn't agreed to produce it, he doesn't know if he'd have had the courage to start the Report. Sometimes he'll drive around his house in circles after a show, because there is no way he's walking in to his kids with any of "Stephen" still hanging around.
(b) a reason he/she sucks
The more time passes, the more disingenuous the whole "we just make the dick jokes" thing gets. Jon never asked for responsibility, it's true. But there reaches a point where that just doesn't matter anymore.
Stephen has always craved attention, and in a way, the applause he milks from the audience isn't for "Stephen" at all.
(c) a reason he/she is awesomecakes
It's not just that Jon takes no bullshit, and is quick enough to be a funny and angry enough for it to hurt. It's that he also has empathy, a genuine desire for others to make a good case. And that is the golden combination everyone seems to fall into the trap of underestimating.
It takes one hell of a person to play the role Stephen does and still not be able to hide the simple decency underneath. And while the audience see it in every break, those close to him, the ones who love him, they can't see anything else.
(d) five things that never happened to that character and/or five people that character never fell in love with and why
Jon never expected TDS to last. He never fell in love with Denis, because they weren't those guys, and you can only blame so much on alcohol and joints. He never really wanted to be a psychologist - he barely trusts himself with his own mind, let alone to go rummaging around in other people's. He never fell in love with John Oliver, but at a point in time where Jon is resigned to the fact that he'll lose them all (except Stephen, never Stephen) the Brit has really gotten under his skin.
Sometimes when he sees Stephen he thinks of might-have-beens and different choices. But he knows the difference between "if" and "is", and although it was difficult, he managed to never fall in love with Stephen Colbert.
Stephen never quit TDS, though he came so close, but he had a family and some things were more important than self-respect... and then Jon came along. He never fell in love with Paul and Amy - not either one, in particular, but Paul&Amy, because they come as a unit, and that was always the problem. He never fell in love with Steve, and is glad because he knows if he had it would never have lasted as long as the friendship they have now. He never really knew who exactly decided to invite him to the White House and why they ever thought it would be a good idea, and never really cared.
Sometimes when he sees Jon he thinks of might-have-been's and different choices. But he knows the difference between "if" and "is", and although it was difficult, he managed to never fall in love with Jon Stewart.
Jason & John
a) three facts about them from my personal canon/fanon
Coming from a country whose great comedy duos inevitably share at least one kiss on screen, John has never really understood why Stephen and Jon are so wary of finally bringing their carefully constructed UST to its natural conclusion. He keeps a British flag
across his side of the office ceiling solely to annoy the hell out of Rob Riggle. Andy's number is first on his speed dial, even though it's his friends in America he actually calls, but every time he goes to change it he finds a reason not to.
Jason is a fantastic cook, and likes to make cakes and biscuits for Sam and the kids (he also like to wear the apron later on, when Sam shows him how much she appreciates his efforts). He knows for a fact that all of his wife's underwear fits him, with a little tweaking. When he was in Iran Jon rang three times to tell him that if he wanted, he could come back, and each time he paused a long, long time before saying no.
(b) a reason he/she sucks
Despite every recognition of his talent, every achievement, John never lets up on the self-deprecation. It's more than a comedy kink, but with such a perfect deadpan it's hard to see where the joke ends and the genuine insecurity begins. It can be so infuriating
It's not that Jason doesn't respect boundaries, exactly. It's more that he can't get his head around the concept. And as every single member of the TDS team can confirm, that is not a hyperbolic statement - it is fact, tried and tested. And after decreasingly subtle hints from Jon, long, serious talks with Stephen, an eloquent open letter devised by Rob Corddry and Ed Helms, tantrums from Riggle and John Oliver's carefully laid out digrammatical explanantion of The British Art Of Repression, nothing has changed.
(c) a reason he/she is awesomecakes
Despite every recognition of his talent, every achievement, John never lets up on the self-deprecation. It's more than a comedy kink, but with such a perfect deadpan it's hard to see where the joke ends and the genuine modesty begins. It can be so endearing.
Jason was born with a talent for affection, and if it overflows sometimes, well... that's just the way it is, and if they're honest everyone has come to rely on a hug from Jason on a regular basis. He's a tactile creature, and likes to snuggle.
(d) five things that never happened to that character and/or five people that character never fell in love with and why
John never wanted to be president of the Cambridge Footlights, and was happy to be remain the "Cheney to Richard Ayaode's George Bush." He never fell in love with Jason, but he certainly learned a lot. He never regretted striking, even though he honestly thought for a while there that he'd be deported. He never fell in love with Andy, but he does love him, in a crazily ambiguous way he can't define or defend and doesn't feel the need to.
Jason never convinced Rob and Ed to let him in on a threesome, though not for lack of trying. He never really played by the rules, specifically the ones about coworkers and blowjobs. He never told Aasif that all he'd done with his wife that night was play scrabble. He had never fucked under his bosses desk until he met John Oliver, nor appreciated the beauty of that lull in the office at about 3:45. Jason Jones never loved anyone but Sam.
Pavel & Hikaru
a) three facts about them from my personal canon/fanon
Pavel isn't a normal teenager in many ways, but there's one stereotype he unashamedly fulfills - anyone seeing how much food he can put away in one sitting for for the first time usually has trouble speaking for a while. He's been drinking vodka since he was six and had a lot of fun the night the senior bridge crew decided to get him his 'first real drink'. He knows that anything worth mentioning was invented in Russia - and his frequent reinforcement of these beliefs are in no way a private joke at the expense of just about everyone. Well. Maybe a bit.
Hikaru Sulu is a bit of an amateur card shark, and paid his way through the academy with his poker face. The real reason he forgot to disengage inertial dampeners is 17, heavily accented, has these curls that frame frankly ridiculous cheekbones and is very, very distracting. Hikaru has started naming particularly interesting botanic specimens after crew members, and giggles with Pavel every time the ridiculously fertile Korwinian "Captain Kirk" Stone-Lily crossbreeds with yet another unsuspecting shrub.
(b) a reason he/she sucks
Pavel knows exactly how smart he is, and can't really see the need to make allowances for anyone who can't keep up.
Hikaru knows Pavel brings out the best in him, but he also brings out he worst, and things have turned ugly more than once because he couldn't keep his jealousy in check.
(c) a reason he/she is awesomecakes
As innocent as he looks, Pavel survived being the youngest ever graduate of the academy to become the navigator of the Fleet's flagship at only seventeen - he's tougher than anyone really suspects. And that's why, when Jim is bleeding in Spock's arms and McCoy is screaming at Scotty to get a lock on the away team and the bridge is suddenly so empty, he steps up to the Captains chair and faces down the Klingon commander, bluffing with no cards until reinforcements arrive.
It's quite hard, really, to defend the use of a katana in combat to skeptical men and women trained with phasers from the very beginning. After a few incidents, though, (involving one more than one occasion power-shorting alien energy pulses) he really doesn't have to.
(d) five things that never happened to that character and/or five people that character never fell in love with and why
Pavel never fell in love with McCoy, because he came to terms early with the fact that the doctor couldn't really look at him without seeing Joanna (it was a little insulting, at first, but it made things a lot less awkward when after a particularly disastrous away mission and doped up on ppainkillers, he repeatedly called him 'papa' and asked if he could have a hug). He never fell in love with Uhura, although she was the most beautiful woman he'd ever met, because she berated and joked with him in Russian like the big sister he nevver had. Pavel never loved Spock, because hero worship isn't love, though the day he was taken aside and quietly told that there was no logical reason to blame himself for what happened to the Lady Amanda he came dreadfully close. He never fell in love with Riley because it seemed vaguely incestuous to consider him anything other than a friend. Scotty was sweet, and friendly, and talked to him in a language of maths and interdimensional physics and made him laugh with stories of a misspent youth in Edinburgh, and his affection for the man grew by the day. But he never fell in love with him, because he wasn't Hikaru.
Hikaru never fell in love with Gaila, because he knew it wouldn't do much good - while he respected her attitude towards sex, he always had been an old fashioned romantic. (He put that one night down to the Cardassian Sunrises, and maybe a tiny bit of fascination with the green skin.) He never dreamed of falling for Uhura, no matter how much he respected her (even if he had been interested, the way she and Spock looked at each other was positively dangerous, and only an idiot would get mixed up in that). He never loved McCoy as anything other than a highly dependable drinking buddy (the man had a iron stomach, it was ridiculous). He never loved Scotty, although he trusted him and his intentions towards Pavel for some reason that he could never pin down. He never fell in love with Jim Kirk, not really, because eyefucking on adrenalin after near death doesn't count (though it is apparently enough to warrant an open invite to threesomes with his Captain and CMO). Kirk was a lot of things. But he wasn't Pavel.
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on 2009-09-11 04:52 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-11 11:13 pm (UTC)It really is ♥ hey, are you doing it?
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on 2009-09-11 11:20 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-11 11:41 pm (UTC)So just write them in character. It's not RPS if it's IC!
(I totally understand though, I can't even believe that I've actually written RPS... christ...)
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on 2009-09-12 12:38 am (UTC)YOU SHOULD ASK ME ABOUT EVERYONE I WANT TO SHARE
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on 2009-09-12 12:48 am (UTC)Stephen - Paul - Amy - Rahm - Jason Jones - John Oliver - Jon Stewart - Rachel - Keith - Anderpony
Or any of the above you wish to select.
but especially RAHM
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on 2009-09-12 01:19 am (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-12 04:55 am (UTC);_; I'm really dumb, but I can't find your post.
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on 2009-09-12 08:55 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-11 05:14 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-11 11:17 pm (UTC)Awww, thanks :D I love to spread the cute.
(You're too kind, though, saying all these nice things to me... excellent fanfic has plot or emotional arcs or awesome hilariousness or something. This is just my demented brain listing things!)no subject
on 2009-09-11 06:02 pm (UTC)Methinks you should make this into a... what's it called... you know... you read them... fic! Yes! Fic this shit. =D
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on 2009-09-11 11:22 pm (UTC)That bit was meant for you! He loves his Andy :D I had trouble deciding whether Andy should be in the "people he never fell in love with" section.
Speaking of which, I was sent some clips of this 36 hour show a comedian I like did and there was SURPRISE ANDY ZALTZMAN laughing and trying to rap and just generally being cute. ♥
Fic it? How? It's just random thoughts... you want Bugle boys fic, don't you? IDK... I don't think I could write Andy.
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on 2009-09-11 11:26 pm (UTC)YOU HAVE CLIPS OF MARK WATSON'S SHOW??? I don't mean to sound greedy and needy but GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE =D =D
Well... it just seems like there's too many ideas for it NOT to be fic'ed if you get me. Put all the ideas together and make something. And yes. I do want Bugle-boys fic. Always.
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on 2009-09-11 11:39 pm (UTC)Yay! Meltage! I shall now mix you with honey and cornflakes and make Honey Joys.
It's not real clips, it's just basically a montage of glimpses of the people who were involved. (David O'Doherty! Tim Minchin! Adam Hills!) But htere are about twenty seconds of Andy on there :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3yRtHVNes&feature=fvw
IDK... I sort of fail at fic. But since it's my mind canon, it will probably turn up at some point in something.
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on 2009-09-11 11:53 pm (UTC)That video... it's like all my favourite comedians in one fucking event!! AGHHHH. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START!!! Andy and Dan being adorable! Tim Minchin swearing! Peter Buckley Hill singing!! Adam Hills doing a DJ voice! That guy who plays the accordion playing the accordion! Tim Key sans facial hair! EEEEEEEEEEE.
You DO NOT fail at fic, my dear. You just need some practise to boost your confidence. =D
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on 2009-09-12 12:14 am (UTC)I KNOW. MARK WATSON IS A WONDERFUL CREATURE. MAD, BUT WONDERFUL.
It just makes me happy cos it makes me think they must all be friends and HOW COOL IS THAT :D
In return, I have a request: do you have any videos with John and Andy in the same room? Preferably bantering? Want...
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on 2009-09-12 12:21 am (UTC)Yessss! I still want to write a comedian-rific fic where John is leaving for America so all his friends have a massive party and they're all cute and wonderful together. =D
The only stuff I can think of is these videos but I'm sure you've seen them before.
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on 2009-09-12 12:30 am (UTC)NO I HAVEN'T. OMFG. EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO MAINLINE ME SOME BUGLE BOYS.
Ok. I'm writing you an Ollie&Andy drabble in thanks. I have a massive assignment due monday, but as soon as I hand it in I'm cooking up you some fic.
Proposition: Andy visits Ollie in America and everyone at TDS tries to work out what their relationship actually is? with lots of "they're british! everything they do seems gay! Arrgghhh!"
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on 2009-09-12 12:33 am (UTC)AW MAN DON'T MAKE ME COME OVER THERE AND HUG YOU! IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? 'CAUSE I'LL BLOODY DO IT. =D
And the plot? OMG that sounds so funny and brilliant!! Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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on 2009-09-12 12:36 am (UTC)I REALLY, REALLY DO.
HUGS!
Yay! Glad you like. If you have any suggestions or requests, lemme know.
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on 2009-09-11 06:26 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-11 11:27 pm (UTC)Everyone loves Jason :D
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on 2009-09-11 08:50 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-11 11:28 pm (UTC)Ooh! Which two?Aw, I'm glad you liked! (At least, I hope that means you liked... o.O)no subject
on 2009-09-12 12:14 am (UTC)Andy's number is first on his speed dial, even though it's his friends in America he actually calls, but every time he goes to change it he finds a reason not to.
and I teared up again.
Of course I liked! <3 How could anyone not?!
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on 2009-09-12 12:23 am (UTC)Aw, yes... I wanted to include the wife and kids for Jon and Stephen, so sadly... they are soulmates but not in love. But it would be so easy for them to be :D
JOHN LOVES HIS ANDY! AND ANDY LOVES JOHN! AND THEIR RESPECTIVE PARTNERS ARE SLIGHTLY THREATENED BUT KNOW BETTER THAN TO QUESTION THE BROMANCE!
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on 2009-09-12 12:28 am (UTC)JOHN AND ANDY 2GETHER 4EVER! YOU KNOW JOHN WRITES THAT INTO HIS NOTEBOOKS AND ANDY CARVES IT INTO TREES!
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on 2009-09-12 12:38 am (UTC)Exactly. It's good to know we have a higher purpose.
DAMN STRAIGHT THEY DO. AND THEY MAKE EACH OTHER FRIENDSHIP BRACELETS AND LEAVE CODED MESSAGES IN EACH OTHERS LOCKERS.
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on 2009-09-12 12:43 am (UTC)HELLS YEAH! AND WHENEVER THEY'RE ON THE SAME CONTINENT THEY HAVE SLEEPOVERS WHERE THEY BRAID EACH OTHER'S HAIR AND DO EACH OTHER'S NAILS AND TALK ABOUT WHICH
CELEBRITYLONG DEAD HISTORICAL PERSON THEY WANT TO MARRY!no subject
on 2009-09-12 12:52 am (UTC)=DDDDD
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on 2009-09-11 09:34 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-11 11:31 pm (UTC)Ah, thanks! ♥ Yes, why haven't you? Get to it!
It was so tough coming up with a reason Ollie sucks! But then I remembered that though I find his self-esteem thing THE CUTEST DAMN THING EVER I also would spend all my time trying to talk him out of it.
Jason & Sam only ever have eyes for each other :D they just like to have a bit of fun off on the side.
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on 2009-09-11 10:23 pm (UTC)I've been dealing with tag sale prep all day and finally got to sit down and chill a bit and it seriously made my day to get to read this from you. ♥
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on 2009-09-11 11:33 pm (UTC)I think you've influenced me :D That must be it! Especially with Hikaru. Your word is law on all things Sulu-related.
Wow, that doesn't sound fun. I'm glad I could in some way alleviate the crappiness.
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on 2009-09-12 06:20 am (UTC)You definitely did! And now I'm tired and grumpycakes and I just read it again and feel better again. ♥
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on 2009-09-12 12:39 am (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-12 12:42 am (UTC)YOU FLATTER ME, BB.
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on 2009-09-12 01:19 am (UTC)no subject
on 2009-09-12 04:49 am (UTC)WELL. THAT IS A VERY ACHIEVABLE GOAL.
IN FACT, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GET AN ALL-SEASONS PASS.